<4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > I figured with baka.. but i wasn't sure witht he bt... ahahah that's great. 25 [22:20:54] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > What did it start out being? 25 [22:20:58] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > i'm tired.. 25 [22:21:01] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Boxtorrents 25 [22:21:04] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > bxtorrents 25 [22:21:08] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > I like the new one better. 25 [22:21:08] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > then there was a takeover 25 [22:21:09] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > why did i decide to do extra work.. 25 [22:21:10] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > \o/ 25 [22:21:15] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > I forget people do not know the history 25 [22:21:15] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > who the hell asked me 25 [22:21:17] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Yeah, I remmember hearing about Box from the chan. 25 [22:21:18] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > because you're a silly girl noda. :P 25 [22:21:19] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > nobody.. 25 [22:21:27] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > I read about the history 25 [22:21:31] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > because i was bored 25 [22:21:31] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > because i want a day off 25 [22:21:32] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > I signed up the week it happened 25 [22:21:33] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Lol 25 [22:21:42] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Oh fun, joining during chaos. Lol. 25 [22:21:43] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Was like o.o Where'd it go? 25 [22:21:45] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > i joined it before when it was boxtorrents 25 [22:21:51] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > orly 25 [22:21:53] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Want a medal for that? 25 [22:21:57] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > ._. 25 [22:21:57] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > but my account was pruned for inactivity 25 [22:22:02] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > lawl 25 [22:22:07] <4,11+ !nc Saras > I've had a few of those go like that. 25 [22:22:14] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > was there a reason it was changed? like, the takeover people didn't like the old name or something? 25 [22:22:15] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > No medal for pruned people 25 [22:22:20] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > damn i still have an hour of work or so.. =.= 25 [22:22:23] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > fuck this world 25 [22:22:25] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > There was a lot of shit !n NeonFlame 25 [22:22:31] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > why kuran? :( 25 [22:22:36] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > What kind of shit? o.o 25 [22:22:41] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > no medal for me :( 25 [22:22:42] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Never came to the forums or the like. I jus registered got what I wanted and... never came back again. 25 [22:22:53] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Oh well. I suppose the 5th odd time doens't lie. 32 [22:22:59] !n Dhruv highfives !n saras 25 [22:23:04] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Its in the news section somewhere 25 [22:23:21] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > DOnation money was being pocketed 25 [22:23:24] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > mhm 25 [22:23:56] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > you mean announcements kuran? 25 [22:24:00] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > oh jeez. Wow. 25 [22:24:14] <4,11+ !nc Saras > That's a pretty big no-no. 25 [22:24:27] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Yes Dhruv. 25 [22:24:32] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Still, why the change to BakaBT? 32 [22:24:38] !n nodame-chan wants to kill herself and finally rest in peace. 25 [22:24:39] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > hullarious 32 [22:24:44] !n Kuyou hugs !n nodame-chan 25 [22:24:49] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > DONT DIE 25 [22:24:50] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Don't ask me, ask the staff! 25 [22:24:57] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > i like BBT's name 25 [22:25:01] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > lemme search 25 [22:25:03] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > And the section IS called news 25 [22:25:05] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > I checked 25 [22:25:09] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > !n Jarudin why did you change to bbt from boxtorrents? 25 [22:25:10] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > \o/ 25 [22:25:22] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > when did the change happen? 25 [22:25:23] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > oh, that's a pretty long story 25 [22:25:25] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > it sounds cooler 25 [22:25:28] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > i think 25 [22:25:30] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > :D 25 [22:25:30] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > no 25 [22:25:32] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > A few years ago? 25 [22:25:33] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > bbt is cooler 25 [22:25:36] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > tell us why jaru 25 [22:25:36] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > yeah 25 [22:25:37] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > bbt 25 [22:25:41] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > oic 25 [22:25:43] <4,11+ !nc Saras > I suppose getting adverts for a place having "torrent"in it might be hard. 25 [22:25:45] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > i mean bbt baka otouto 25 [22:25:46] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > Baby Bottle Torrents 25 [22:25:48] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > June/July 2009 I believe? 25 [22:26:01] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Jarudin, you should tell us the story anyway. :) 25 [22:26:04] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Big Bang Theory 25 [22:26:04] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > ^ 25 [22:26:09] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > ^^ 25 [22:26:10] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > lol 25 [22:26:13] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > lemme check for topics around that time 25 [22:26:18] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Everyone sit down and we'll alll listen to a story 25 [22:26:21] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > I want to know 25 [22:26:28] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > yeah 32 [22:26:28] !n NeonFlame likes listening to stories. :) 25 [22:26:32] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > Jaru tell us 25 [22:26:33] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > From Jarudinarino 25 [22:26:37] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > come on Jaru-chan :) 25 [22:26:37] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > I'd liek to hear it from great commander !n Jarudin himself 25 [22:26:39] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > like* 25 [22:26:40] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea yea, hold on 25 [22:26:43] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > rofl 25 [22:26:43] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Ha ha 25 [22:26:46] <4,11+ !nc Saras > We should make a !n Jarudin out of Arduino. 25 [22:26:52] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > ok nobody writes 25 [22:26:55] <4,11+ !nc Saras > To tell us stories of the worlds long past. 25 [22:26:59] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > let only Jaru to write 25 [22:27:07] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > it'll be easier to read 25 [22:27:11] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > agreed? 25 [22:27:17] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > you stop writing 1st 25 [22:27:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > looks like the original post is gone 25 [22:27:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but here's a cache 25 [22:27:33] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > https://forum.suprbay.org/showthread.php?tid=3306 25 [22:27:36] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > read that 25 [22:27:38] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > wow. 25 [22:27:42] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > cheaaaap 25 [22:27:49] <4,11+ !nc Saras > I've expected too much. 25 [22:27:58] <4,11+ !nc Saras > You're a bad story bot Jarudin. 25 [22:28:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > this was the message Nazo posted when we swithced to BakaBT 25 [22:28:11] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > meh 25 [22:28:26] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > Actually, I think this is the one i read 25 [22:28:26] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > XD 25 [22:28:29] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I'm not a great story teller 25 [22:28:34] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > !n Jarudin is a poop story teller 25 [22:28:51] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > oh i'll read it later 25 [22:28:55] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > to long :D 25 [22:29:00] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > hmm 25 [22:29:02] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > so Duki was appointed after that only? 25 [22:29:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I suppose I could tell you my story 25 [22:29:38] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > :D 25 [22:29:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I joined the site .. apparently over 7 years ago 25 [22:29:55] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > "This is my story" 25 [22:29:56] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Boxtorrents was different from all other trackers 25 [22:30:09] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > ah damn i want to chat to you ppl 25 [22:30:13] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > fuck this work! :D 25 [22:30:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > instead of just allowing everything there was actually a quality check 25 [22:30:35] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > back then we had a rule of only one torrent of each series 25 [22:30:48] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and only complete stuff 25 [22:30:59] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Random question, but IS there a film/tv show equivalent of BBT? 25 [22:31:08] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > huh? 32 [22:31:12] !n Kuyou slaps !n kurandoinu 25 [22:31:14] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > SHUSH 25 [22:31:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so when I joined the site it had already gone through it's share of daram 25 [22:31:43] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I don't know much of the details but Malus told me some stuff 25 [22:31:44] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Oh fuck Jarudin. 25 [22:31:50] <4,11+ !nc Saras > You're a coup leader. 25 [22:31:51] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Damn. 25 [22:31:53] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Box founded it in 2003 I think 25 [22:31:55] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Pish 32 [22:31:57] !n kurandoinu goes 25 [22:31:58] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > along with some other guys 34 [22:32:10] !n Dex_Belle [~Dex_Belle@ !h Rizon-DF5B01B7.tampfl.fios.verizon.net ] has quit IRC: 25 [22:32:25] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > at some point some staffers didn't quite agree with how Box was running stuff and they tried a coup 25 [22:32:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > somehow they failed 25 [22:32:37] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > kurandoinu, i would say tvttorrents is close 25 [22:32:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I think they went on and became datorrents 25 [22:32:48] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > But you need an invite to get in. 25 [22:32:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > which is a shit tracker 25 [22:33:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > if they're still alive 25 [22:33:10] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so, Box found himself without any staff 25 [22:33:18] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > NeonFlame: Is it hard to get an invite? (And thanks for actually answering) 25 [22:33:19] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > from what I gather he randomly appointed a few people 25 [22:33:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and it worked out alright I suppose 25 [22:33:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > some staff turned out to be bad, but some were good 25 [22:33:48] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > kurandoinu: I have an account, I could invite you. :) I have to give you credit to get you in. But we can talk about tha tlater, i wanna listen to Jarudin. :P 25 [22:34:01] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Can always remove staff and put new staff in right? 25 [22:34:08] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Malus' name was Nahli back then 25 [22:34:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > later changed to Nah 25 [22:34:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I think Force was already part of staff 21 [22:34:19] !n kurandoinu [~kurando@ !h hime.sama ] has left !c #bbtgenchicha 25 [22:34:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and MusicWizard 25 [22:34:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and Kotu as well, the previous developer 25 [22:34:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so when I joined Boxtorrents back then we didn't have CCCP yet 25 [22:34:58] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so a lot of people were having trouble playing the videos 25 [22:35:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > especially .mkv was hard for people 25 [22:35:35] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I went around the forums trying to explain to people how to install codecs 25 [22:35:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I enjoyed that 25 [22:36:05] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and at some point I got invited to staff 25 [22:36:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I think I was a member for about 1 year then 25 [22:36:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I became a moderator 25 [22:36:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I didn't use IRC yet back then 25 [22:36:34] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I hopped on a few times when the server was down but not much other than that 25 [22:36:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > oh yea .. the server 25 [22:36:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > it was shit back then 25 [22:36:46] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > it would go down about every week 25 [22:36:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and Box would have to call up the host to reset it 25 [22:37:00] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and Box was generally not around 25 [22:37:04] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so that didn't go so well 25 [22:37:10] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > site was down for long periods of time 20 [22:37:13] !n Havocoid [~Android.H@ !h Rizon-9B034177.dynamic.chello.pl ] has joined !c #bbtgenchicha 40 [22:37:14] !n Onee-chan [sis@ !h pretty.and.proper ] has set mode +v !n Havocoid 25 [22:37:17] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > that's rough 25 [22:37:25] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since by then I already had a interest in webdevelopment 25 [22:37:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and an equal interest in anime 25 [22:37:40] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I poked Kotu a bit about the technical side of thing 25 [22:37:48] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > how does the tracker work, how does the server work? etc. 25 [22:38:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > after about a year of moderating and poking Kotu he caved and gave me access to the server 25 [22:38:27] <8,5+ !nc Havocoid > So, I'm standing stark naked in the window 25 [22:38:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that's when I started making major changes to the code 25 [22:38:45] <8,5+ !nc Havocoid > Drinking beer 25 [22:38:48] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > first of all, the tracker was running like shit 25 [22:39:09] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > it's like it created a bunch of data to be updated 25 [22:39:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > which was then carried around multiple tables 25 [22:39:28] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > only to be painfully merged later on 25 [22:39:36] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > oh, and back then, the ratio tracking was shiit 25 [22:39:40] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > it was done based on IP 25 [22:39:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > doesn't work so well if you share IPs 25 [22:40:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > you had to 'lock' your IP to your account 25 [22:40:05] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Doesn't work well if you're downloading on different ips either. 25 [22:40:08] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > if your IP ever changed you couldn't track your ratio 25 [22:40:15] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > NeonFlame, yea 25 [22:40:34] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I started improving stuff 25 [22:40:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > one part at a time 25 [22:41:04] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I fixed the tracker so it could update to the database as intended 25 [22:41:12] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that alone fixed ALL the server crashes 25 [22:41:21] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but it did take me a looong time to figure it out 25 [22:41:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since the tracker is written in C++, and I don't really do C++ 25 [22:41:47] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Interesting. 25 [22:41:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > the tracker now works with passkeys, which is a much more reliable way to identify people 25 [22:42:03] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I also made changes allthroughout the site 25 [22:42:06] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > improving search 25 [22:42:12] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > improving torrent descriptions 25 [22:42:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > back then, torrent descriptions were just text 25 [22:42:20] <8,5+ !nc Havocoid > C++ is fun 25 [22:42:21] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > with links 25 [22:42:34] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I was one of the pioneers of HTML descriptions 25 [22:42:50] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since not everyone was very good at it 25 [22:42:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we made templates 25 [22:43:05] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I made a simple template engine .. which is still being used to date I think 34 [22:43:08] !n Havocoid [~Android.H@ !h Rizon-9B034177.dynamic.chello.pl ] has quit IRC: 25 [22:43:10] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > but damn it you're cool. you did a shitload of work. RESPECT!!! 25 [22:43:21] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > at one point I was working on the site for like 10 hours a day 25 [22:43:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Uni .. not do so much :P 25 [22:43:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > doing* 25 [22:43:45] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > this was when I realised I found something I really enjoyed doing 25 [22:44:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so .. 25 [22:44:14] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > hahah, that's pretty awesome. 25 [22:44:19] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there were still problems 25 [22:44:20] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > come on don't be humble! Hale to Jarudin-sama! 25 [22:44:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > basically Kotu had dissappeared 25 [22:44:34] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Malus was the big chief 25 [22:44:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and Force was helping me with the server-side of things 25 [22:45:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > by then I had improved the site a lot 25 [22:45:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I decided to add statistics 25 [22:45:15] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > force is still here iirc 25 [22:45:29] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > like, graphs of how many torrents we have, number of seeders, leechers, torrent clients 25 [22:45:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I could make good predicitions about how to change the site 25 [22:45:44] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Makes sense. 25 [22:45:50] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > back then we were using Paypal for donations 25 [22:45:53] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Box handled all donations 25 [22:45:57] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > which bothered me 25 [22:46:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > often there were people complaining about Box not messaging them back 25 [22:46:12] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > Hail* 25 [22:46:17] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > you basically made what the site is right now.... i *BOW* i front of you 25 [22:46:22] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > As in, confirming their donation was recieved? 25 [22:46:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but overall the money aspect was invisible to us, and stuff did work 25 [22:46:45] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > NeonFlame, yea, Box had to manually give them donation status and so on 25 [22:46:59] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > this was when I got a really good idea 25 [22:47:03] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Ahhhh. Okay, yeah that makes sense. I used to post on another forum that was a bit like that. 25 [22:47:08] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Paypal has a service called IPN 25 [22:47:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > hmm no wait .. this was alter 25 [22:47:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > later* 25 [22:47:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > first, I built a better tool for Box 25 [22:47:36] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so he could more quickly deal out donations to people 25 [22:47:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > keep track of who donated what etc. 25 [22:47:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that worked fine for a time 25 [22:47:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > till I decided to run up some statistics about donations 25 [22:48:00] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > uh oh. 25 [22:48:03] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that was when I was shocked 25 [22:48:09] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I double, triple checked 25 [22:48:15] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I told Malus about it 25 [22:48:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > he was pretty conviced that wasn't right 25 [22:48:44] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > what was wrong there? 25 [22:49:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there was more money comming in than could be reasonably expected for server bills 25 [22:49:17] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we pay about 100 euro a month for the tracker server 25 [22:49:20] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > and? 25 [22:49:29] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > significantly more was comming in 25 [22:49:36] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > And there was no record of where the rest of the money was goin gi assume. 25 [22:49:50] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea, it all went to Box' paypal 25 [22:50:05] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > cheapstake 25 [22:50:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and since Box really wasn't involved with the site anymore at all back then we thought we should do something about that 25 [22:50:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so me and Malus set scheming 25 [22:50:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Force was having some personal issues back then so I had to rent, install and configure a Linux server 25 [22:50:45] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > something I had never done before 25 [22:50:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I somehow got it working 25 [22:50:56] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but that was the easy part 25 [22:51:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > the other staff didn't know yet 25 [22:51:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we also had to come up with a domain name quick 25 [22:51:25] <4,11+ !nc Saras > This is starting to sound like game of thrones. 20 [22:51:26] !n kurandoinu [~kurando@ !h hime.sama ] has joined !c #bbtgenchicha 40 [22:51:26] !n Onee-chan [sis@ !h pretty.and.proper ] has set mode +v !n kurandoinu 25 [22:51:34] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > lmfao 25 [22:51:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Malus suggested bakabt, I didn't like it much but it was simple, short and it works 25 [22:52:06] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I made a full copy of the site, the database and the tracker 25 [22:52:06] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > couldn't keep the old one because it belonged to box 25 [22:52:06] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > ? 25 [22:52:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea 25 [22:52:20] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we have no access to the DNS or server admin panel 25 [22:52:23] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > had* 25 [22:52:26] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Yeah that makes sense. 25 [22:52:27] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Am I allowed to talk again or do I still have to stay silent? :/ 25 [22:52:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I also set up a Paypal account under my name 25 [22:52:39] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > !n jarudin is just finishing up i think lol 25 [22:52:40] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > silent for a while more kuran 25 [22:52:51] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and set up the IPN service so every donation would be automatically accounted for 25 [22:52:58] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > the system would keep track of donations 25 [22:53:03] <6,7+ !nc nodame-chan > will be back in half an hour... 34 [22:53:08] !n nodame-chan [cgiirc@ !h 7086F78D.34574470.16A6E8EB.IP ] has quit IRC: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 25 [22:53:10] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and close them when a certain threshold was reached 25 [22:53:15] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Then no on can mess around with the donations. 25 [22:53:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and it's all transparent 25 [22:53:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but back then we had no idea if it was going to work 25 [22:53:45] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > yeah saw it a while back 25 [22:53:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I had to fork up 300 euro of my own cash to rent the server 25 [22:53:59] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Wouldn't it still be wise to have a bit of an overhead? For slow months and the like. 25 [22:54:09] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Saras, I'll get to that 25 [22:54:15] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so then came the tricky part 25 [22:54:19] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > how do we move everyone over? 25 [22:54:20] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > they already have it 25 [22:54:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > will users accept it? 25 [22:54:28] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > will staff accept it? 25 [22:54:35] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we let staff know first 25 [22:54:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > it was a tense moment 25 [22:54:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but EVERYONE stepped over to our side 25 [22:55:03] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > When money is being stolen, people tend to do that. lol 25 [22:55:05] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > largely because Malus and me were basically running the whole thing, not Box 25 [22:55:09] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Yeah. 25 [22:55:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so we killed the old server 25 [22:55:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > emptied the database 25 [22:55:40] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > removed all the torrents, tracker and site code 25 [22:55:56] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and left just a message saying we're moving to bakabt.com 25 [22:56:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > oh, and by that time I had been promoted to admin too 25 [22:56:33] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > lol with all the work you'd done, not surprised. 25 [22:56:34] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since I had access to the database I could have easily promoted myself but I wanted it to be legit 25 [22:56:37] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > why aren't you an admin now? 25 [22:56:44] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I'll get to that 25 [22:56:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so when we switched a shit storm broke loose 25 [22:57:00] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > people were confused 25 [22:57:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we put up a post trying to explain everything as neutrally as we could 25 [22:57:28] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > not blaming Box for anything, but just saying we disagree with the way he was running the site 25 [22:57:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that's basically the post I linked earlier 25 [22:57:38] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Right 25 [22:57:40] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Nazo wrote that 25 [22:57:46] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > for which I am grateful 25 [22:57:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > neither Malus nor me could write it 25 [22:58:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > because we were the insigators 25 [22:58:12] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Yeah, need a "neutral" third party. 25 [22:58:14] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > staff stood behind us, and eventually so did the users 25 [22:58:23] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I was still worried about donations 25 [22:58:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but that ended up fine 25 [22:58:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I think we raised 600 euro's in 24 hours 25 [22:58:48] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > wow that's awesome 25 [22:58:53] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > guess you got your 300 euros back lol 25 [22:58:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > satisfying the server bill for 6 months! 25 [22:59:00] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea :) 25 [22:59:05] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Damn. A shame I missed it. Could've been fun watch. 25 [22:59:09] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and things were pretty good from that point on 25 [22:59:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I did some more work on the site 25 [22:59:18] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Why aren't you an admin anymore then? 25 [22:59:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I wrote the adoption center 25 [22:59:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > the offer system 25 [22:59:51] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > by then, we'd get these races as to who would get their release up first 25 [22:59:57] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > lol 25 [23:00:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since we only allowed one version this meant the first realease was the crappiest 25 [23:00:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we didn't want that 25 [23:00:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we had to buffer offers, give time to select the best one 25 [23:00:23] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > makes sense. 25 [23:00:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I took the idea from another site I'm with 25 [23:00:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > works great :) 25 [23:00:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > back then we also had issues with under seeding 25 [23:00:43] <4,11+ !nc Saras > It is a bit slow nowadays. 25 [23:00:44] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > some torrents had no seeders 25 [23:00:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I introduced the bonus system 25 [23:01:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > where you get free upload credits for just idling on underseeding torrents 25 [23:01:18] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > other staff is useless you did so much 25 [23:01:18] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > that's cool and makes sense. lol 25 [23:01:19] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > as you know, we can now boast that we have NO unseeded torrents 25 [23:01:27] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > Yeah that's really cool 25 [23:01:35] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there is no other tracker in the world that does that 25 [23:01:38] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > to my knowledge 25 [23:01:49] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > I'll have to read the rest when i get back tho, have a thing to go to. :P 25 [23:01:54] <4,9+ !nc NeonFlame > bye guys. 25 [23:02:01] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > bye neon 25 [23:02:07] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Night. 25 [23:02:09] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > jaru continue 25 [23:02:14] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea 25 [23:02:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > hmm 25 [23:02:29] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > i'll sleep whe you end your story 25 [23:02:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Malus wanted to start spending time on other things 25 [23:02:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > cause running a torrent site takes a lot of time, and hijacking one even more so 25 [23:03:05] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so then I was in charge of everything 25 [23:03:22] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > this also meant I had to carry the server bills and basically all the risks that come with it 25 [23:03:46] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > including the possibility of police raids since torrent downloading was not always as favorable as it is now 25 [23:04:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I picked a host I hoped I cuold trust 25 [23:04:06] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > back then mininova was hosted there 25 [23:04:12] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > another infamous torrent tracker 25 [23:04:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I figured i was safe 25 [23:04:28] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but then shit happened and they moved to Canada :< 25 [23:05:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I ran the site for a while 25 [23:05:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > do you guys know about the script kiddie who attacked the site? 25 [23:05:47] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > No. 25 [23:05:50] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > ok 25 [23:06:02] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Yes. I remember 25 [23:06:04] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > basically, since all the site code was custom, and because I'm a pretty good programmer 25 [23:06:10] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there weren't really any usable security holes 25 [23:06:21] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so one day, out of the blue 25 [23:06:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > server goes down 25 [23:06:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > unreachable 25 [23:06:51] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > turns out, we;re getting dDOSed 25 [23:06:59] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > for no apparent reason .. his demand was that I step down 25 [23:07:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but I knew that was just a preface, if he could make demands like that he could do to the site whatever he wanted 25 [23:07:23] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so we started to battle him 25 [23:07:28] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > at first we thought he was bluffing 25 [23:07:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > you know, block his IPs and stop the DOS 25 [23:07:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but I think he had friends who did know what they were doing 25 [23:08:03] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there was no way to stop the DOS 25 [23:08:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and we were quickly approaching our bandwidth limit 25 [23:08:25] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > since our upload was just complete full 25 [23:08:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > 25MB/s constantly hitting the server 25 [23:08:36] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > (byte) 25 [23:08:58] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I tried to figure out who this guy was 25 [23:09:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and I think I got pretty close 25 [23:09:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I called in the help of the community to try and figure it out 25 [23:09:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I don't know what really happened but I think we either found him, or another victim 25 [23:09:31] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > I remember everyone banding together to try and find him 25 [23:09:35] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and somehow he did get in trouble 25 [23:09:58] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but the DOS wasn't stopping 25 [23:10:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > houkouonchi offered to help out 25 [23:10:13] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > he's a sysadmin in the US somewher 25 [23:10:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we basically routed all traffic through his servers 25 [23:10:38] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > one point the kiddie shows up, making his threats as usual 25 [23:10:48] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > he starts his DOS (houkouonchi could see this) 25 [23:10:51] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > nothing happened 25 [23:10:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > site was up and running 25 [23:11:00] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > like nothing was wrong 25 [23:11:14] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > houkouonchi was getting his by 100MB/s of traffic, no problem! 25 [23:11:17] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > hit* 25 [23:11:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we didn't hear from the hacker again 24 [23:11:33] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > Jarudin: are you telling the histroy of BoxTorrents/BBT ? 25 [23:11:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > yea 24 [23:11:48] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > blog it while you're at it 25 [23:11:52] <4,11+ !nc Saras > I take it he's about finished. 24 [23:12:01] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > oh no he isn't 24 [23:12:05] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > halfway 25 [23:12:06] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but this whole ordeal took a lot out of me 25 [23:12:14] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > there isn't really much you can do about DOS 25 [23:12:20] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > beside throw a shit ton of money at it 25 [23:12:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I was about ready to pack up and close shop 25 [23:12:31] <6,15+ !nc kurandoinu > Didn't it start because of a blog post? 24 [23:12:32] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > I remember that attack 25 [23:12:37] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but the community were all very eager to help bakabt 25 [23:12:42] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that was when I realised 25 [23:12:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > bakabt is bigger than me, it doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to everyone 24 [23:12:55] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > well 24 [23:13:19] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > anyone attacking BBT is attacking all of our community and associated sites 25 [23:13:24] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I continued on for a while 25 [23:13:31] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but then I got into trouble with Paypal 25 [23:13:39] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > they did an audit and didn't like what they found 25 [23:13:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > they closed down my account with no chance for appeal 25 [23:13:52] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and it sits like that still 25 [23:14:01] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > that was when I was pretty much done with it all 25 [23:14:04] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > what did they find? 25 [23:14:08] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I wanted to focus on other things, like my carreer 25 [23:14:16] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Dhruv, violation of ToS 25 [23:14:18] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > which is true 24 [23:14:22] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > wasn't that two years ago ? 25 [23:14:27] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > could be 25 [23:14:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so I handed over the site to Duki and Arveene 25 [23:14:49] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I gave Arveene access to the DNS 25 [23:14:53] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > and Duki access to the server 25 [23:14:59] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so neither one could try and steal it 25 [23:15:15] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Duki was great, he set up donations on another host 25 [23:15:20] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Moneybookers I think 25 [23:15:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but it's not been going too well ever since 25 [23:15:33] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > so can you regain control if you want to? 25 [23:15:38] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > we keep getting rejected by payment providers 24 [23:15:48] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > did you tell em about what box did ? 25 [23:15:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Dhruv, I still have full access to everything, Duki knows this 2 [23:16:04] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Ika_Musume_fan, read up 25 [23:16:04] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > yeah he told us havoc 24 [23:16:12] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > I was watching TV 24 [23:16:14] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > but cool 25 [23:16:25] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > When did Dubkats come into this? 25 [23:16:26] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I completely dissappeared for a while 25 [23:16:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > didn't use the site, didn't use IRC 25 [23:16:47] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > but you know, I had made quite a few friends here 25 [23:16:53] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so eventually I came back 25 [23:17:07] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > dubkats was with us from the beginning 25 [23:17:13] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > ah 25 [23:17:48] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I'm not so good with names 25 [23:17:49] <4,11+ !nc Saras > Sounds... eventfull. 25 [23:17:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I keep forgetting who everyone is 25 [23:18:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > saras, yea, I think it's enough for a lifetime 25 [23:18:26] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > so thats the end? 25 [23:18:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > pretty much 32 [23:18:45] !n Kuyou applauds 25 [23:18:45] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Duki took over the role and big cheese 25 [23:18:48] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > ohhh....so who actually owns this site? 25 [23:18:55] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > not much is happening on the development side of things though 25 [23:19:11] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > site is good enough i'd say 25 [23:19:11] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Dhruv, Duki pays the bills and his name is on the server registration 25 [23:19:37] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > but you can take back the controls anytime you want? 25 [23:19:59] <4,11+ !nc Saras > So. He's basically the scapegoat? 25 [23:20:12] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > That's a nice way to put it, lol. 25 [23:20:24] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > and where did malus and they other guy go to? 25 [23:20:32] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Kotu? 25 [23:20:39] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > yeah 25 [23:20:41] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > he dissappeared, probable went on to do other stuff 25 [23:20:43] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > so did Malus 25 [23:20:44] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > yeah who wrote that letter 25 [23:20:50] <10,2+ !nc Kuyou > ah 25 [23:20:50] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > Nazo 25 [23:20:54] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I'm not sure 25 [23:21:02] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > I think he eventually dissappeared too 25 [23:21:14] <7,5+ !nc Dhruv > rebellion leaders separated 25 [23:21:23] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > more like, mission accomplished 24 [23:21:29] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > yeah 25 [23:21:30] <8,4+ !nc Jarudin > time to let the next generation step up 24 [23:21:32] <13,6+ !nc Ika_Musume_fan > job finishe 24